Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 21:55 EET
From: Schitzo <g4psycho@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:676] Epidemic ...

	i'm totally surprised that NO ONE has RAVED about this music disk
release ... or even mentioned it for that matter!!!  JEEZ this thing is 
the most QUALITY release i've ever heard (not that i'm willingly putting 
down EGG2 ... but this thing KICKS-ASS!!!).

	if people haven't heard of this music disk then here's the scoop 
.. it's a joint release of from iCE/Reneissance that includes music from 
members of Reneissance, Future Crew and KLF ... and several others that 
i've forgotten so i can't mention.  There's like 15-20 tracks in it 
(didn't count cuz i was too awe struck by the music!!! :)

	don't ask me what ftpsite i got this from cuz i didn't ... i got 
it off a local bbs board and i just happened to take the chance to DL it 
cuz it mentioned Future Crew and KLF members (or should i say KFMF).
(btw the members are Basehead and Necros ... FC's are purple motion and 
skaven ... but you all know that :)

	btw, can anyone tell me some ftpsites where i could get some 
personal releases from Basehead and Necros that WEREN'T released through KLF?
also for FC member music and for a guy named Erik Stridell of Cascada?  
And also some Reneissance stuff.  thanx in advance ...

peace out ...


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 21:53 EET
From: "Chris Campbell" <campbell@fox.nstn.ca>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:672] Re: TALK LIST

On Mon, 9 Jan 95 09:31 EET, 
Kim Davies  <kimba@it.com.au> wrote:

>I really think the last thing everyone needs is a new tracker....

Amen to that!  The only new tracker player I want to see is something that 
runs over the ones out today, Inertia Player and CapaMOD are the only 
players on my HDD, and I use ST3.2 and FT2 for composing.

I put a sample of my first song - Heavy Metal on Hornet, the whole song 
will be released this month :) 

I really like it :)

-- 
Port Hawkesbury Internet crisis day 24
Chris Campbell
campbell@fox.nstn.ca


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 23:28 EET
From: Josh Rodman <wuti@panix.com>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:677] Re: Epidemic ...

> 	i'm totally surprised that NO ONE has RAVED about this music disk
> release ...

	Well, as for me I was far more impressed by EGG2 as a project than
epidemic, though it woulda been nice if the artist distribution in EGG was a
little more even.  I really like Maelcum tracks I do I do, but what about
the rest of you KFMFers?

> 	don't ask me what ftpsite i got this from cuz i didn't ... i got 
> it off a local bbs board and i just happened to take the chance to DL it 
> cuz it mentioned Future Crew and KLF members (or should i say KFMF).

I was impressed by the array of artists they got, but it seems as if some
put in tracks they had left over on their hard drives for a while, not at
all the best I've heard from them.  But then again I'm not a real fan of
soft new-agish stringy things, and that's what a lot of them were.
 
> 	btw, can anyone tell me some ftpsites where i could get some 
> personal releases from Basehead and Necros that WEREN'T released through KLF?

If you read DemoNews, Necros pointed to
ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/msdos/demos/music/artists/necros

I dunno 'bout basehead, though I 'magine he can answer for himself :)

> a guy named Erik Stridell of Cascada?  

That'd be Zodiak.  He's been around for a while.  He just won the Party 94
multichannel competion.  Check out his noisy guitar ft2 composition at
ftp://hornet.eng.ufl.edu/demos/music/songs/tp94mult/reflectr.zip or
something like that.  I also have Shelter, by him, which I ripped out of
Holistic.


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 02:36 EET
From: Schitzo <g4psycho@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:678] Re: Epidemic ...



On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Josh Rodman wrote:

> > 	i'm totally surprised that NO ONE has RAVED about this music disk
> > release ...
> 
> 	Well, as for me I was far more impressed by EGG2 as a project than
> epidemic, though it woulda been nice if the artist distribution in EGG was a
> little more even.  I really like Maelcum tracks I do I do, but what about
> the rest of you KFMFers?

yes i do like maelcum's stuff but i also have to agree that it was lop-sided
in the tracks department

> I was impressed by the array of artists they got, but it seems as if some
> put in tracks they had left over on their hard drives for a while, not at
> all the best I've heard from them.  But then again I'm not a real fan of
> soft new-agish stringy things, and that's what a lot of them were.

well i guess i've mellowed out in my old age :) ... but i just find 
rave/techno too monotonous(sp?) ... same rhythm over and over again is 
not what i call music ... or do i call alot of noise and static music.
don't find too much talent in that ... but before i start a flame war 
(which i don't intend to be doing) i'll just say i know other people like 
it and it's just not my cup of tea and i'll just not listen to it myself
but all you others are welcome to it.
 
> 	 btw, can anyone tell me some ftpsites where i could get some 
> > personal releases from Basehead and Necros that WEREN'T released through KLF?
> 
> If you read DemoNews, Necros pointed to
> ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/msdos/demos/music/artists/necros

uhmm ... this path (or anything similar to it) doesn't seem to exist
 
> > a guy named Erik Stridell of Cascada?  
> 
> That'd be Zodiak.  He's been around for a while.  He just won the Party 94
> multichannel competion.  Check out his noisy guitar ft2 composition at
> ftp://hornet.eng.ufl.edu/demos/music/songs/tp94mult/reflectr.zip or
> something like that.  I also have Shelter, by him, which I ripped out of
> Holistic.

yep shelter is the mod i received off a friend and that's the reason why 
i'm looking for his stuff :) ... any other tracks i should search for by 
him? 


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 02:50 EET
From: "Steven M. Hill" <steven@cadenza.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:679] Re: DemoNews

Somebody mentioned DemoNews  ; is this a list ?
If so how can I subscribe?


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 03:00 EET
From: Andrew Leahy <A.Leahy@st.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:680] Re: Epidemic ...

On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Schitzo wrote:

> 	i'm totally surprised that NO ONE has RAVED about this music disk
> release ... or even mentioned it for that matter!!!  JEEZ this thing is 
> the most QUALITY release i've ever heard (not that i'm willingly putting 
> down EGG2 ... but this thing KICKS-ASS!!!).

I didn't this would've been the place to talk about "other" groups 
compilations, but since there are some KLF members' tunes in Epidemic 
it's probably ok.

-- epidemic.txt --
Epidemic.. the Multigroup Music Experience.
Brought to you by your friends at iCE and Renaissance
Featuring the music of such greats as Necros, Skaven, Purple Motion,
Mellow-D, CC Catch, Ryan Cramer, and many many more. :)
Questions/Comments are welcome.. send to syntax@io.com.
------------------

Includes 18 superb tracks.

1. Epidemic Introtune, CC Catch/Ren./Ice
2. Forever, Basehead/Mental Design/KLF
3. The Passage Of Time, Ryan Cramer/Ren./Iguana
4. Moonglow Groove, DareDevil/Ren.
5. Don Huono, Edge/EMF
6. Stompy, Leinad/Avalanche
7. Gimme Ma Torch
8. Escape, Leviathan/Ren.
9. Triumph, Leviathan/Ren.
Q. Essence, Mellow-D/Orange/Ice
W. Soon I Will End, Mellow-D/Orange/Ice
E. Intrepid, Mosaic/Ren./Ice 
R. Hypercontrol v3.0, Necros/Legend Design/Ice 
T. Introspective, Necros/Legend Design/Ice
Y. From Beyond, Nemesis/Ren./Ice
U. Split Second, Nemesis & Parity Error
I. Nove, Purple Motion/FC
O. Data Jack, Skaven/FC
 
My favourites are Forever (excellent tune from Basehead) and Stompy (very
BoxCar-like)

ftp://ftp.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/pc/demos/renaissance/
-rw-r--r--  1 alf       1311216 Nov  6 21:58 epidem-1.zip
-rw-r--r--  1 alf       1481510 Nov  6 22:13 epidem-2.zip
-rw-r--r--  1 alf       1461530 Nov  6 22:28 epidem-3.zip
-rw-r--r--  1 alf           281 Nov  6 22:52 epidemic.txt

(I guess it somewhere on hornet too.)

Does anyone know how to "extract" particular tracks from the EPIDEMIC.00X
files? 

I've only got one critiscm (and I think this applies for EGG2 too),
there's no way to play all the tracks in sequence. Each track repeats
until you manually click/press to move to the next. It'd be really cool to
set the player going and then just sit back and enjoy... 

_____________________________________________________________________________
Andrew "Alf" Leahy,                                 mailto:a.leahy@uws.edu.au
Computer Systems Officer,                http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/~alf
Dept. of Computing, Uni. of Western Sydney, Nepean          phone: 047 360622


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 21:54 EET
From: "Chris Campbell" <campbell@fox.nstn.ca>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:673] Re: EGG 2

On Mon, 9 Jan 95 18:12 EET, 
Satan  <satan@IntNet.net> wrote:

>What do you run through to get to the InterNet then? That's the only 
>place where I use Unix - instead of a windoze client...

I use MINUET for News, and E-mail, and usually Windows for FTP & IRC & WWW 
:) I plan on getting OS/2 WARP when I upgrade to a Pentium... 

Getting back on topic now, anyone have any info on what Kosmic has planned 
for 1995?  The X-MAS package and EGG 2 sure left them really strong coming 
out of 1994 and into 1995, I hope we see more great stuff this year :)

-- 
Port Hawkesbury Internet crisis day 24
Chris Campbell
campbell@fox.nstn.ca


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 21:55 EET
From: "Steven M. Hill" <steven@cadenza.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:675] Re: Do We Need Another Tracker ?

> 
> In message <m0rQAzH-0000Qu5@www.it.com.au> you write:
> >
> >I really think the last thing everyone needs is a new tracker....
> 
> Hehe, and especially not another incompatible quirky format.  We really have
> enough of those too.
> 
> Jensi


That's probably true but tracker technology will change as hardware changes.
And anyway, what we also need is quality players that support different
formats, like M4W would be cool if it supported .XM. How soon, eh, Jensi 
(nudge nudge..):-}
Steve


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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 21:54 EET
From: demegi50@crazy.fe.up.pt
Subject: [KLF-TALK:674] KOSMIC TRACKER... 


>>
>>| Also....    Whoever the coder is for KLF, I just wanted to suggest that you
>>| might want to start coding a Tracker.  I've heard almost 1/4 of your songs,
>>| [..]
>>
>>I really think the last thing everyone needs is a new tracker....

>Hehe, and especially not another incompatible quirky format.  We really have
>enough of those too.

I don't agree with the creation of a fu..ing new format(i've got lots 'o' 
players: one for DMF, one for MTM+MOD+S3M,...)!! We don't need another format! 
We DO need an universal player and something like that in a tracker. I think the 
formats are more than enough. Now let's work in a nice GUI(something liks FT2).

>>cya,
>>--
>> ,,:::[                       kim davies                        ]:::..
>>::::::[ kimba@it.com.au, kim@omen.com.au, 3:690/660.273@fidonet ]::::::
>> '':::[                 statix [oxygen/kosmic]                  ]:::``

>Jensi

Telmo Cruz
<demegi50@crazy.fe.up.pt>


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 09:30 EET
From: Satan <satan@IntNet.net>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:681] Re: DemoNews


> Somebody mentioned DemoNews  ; is this a list ?
> If so how can I subscribe?

Can't remember the adress right now, but you can get the nfo file on the 
news at ftp.eng.ufl.edu in /demos/news - it's called howtoXX.txt where XX 
are numbers or somehting...

Satan Claus
[FiDELiS/iDENTiTY]


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 10:45 EET
From: Dan <dan@bepcp.bowker.com>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:682] new releases

two new, EXCELLENT releases:

k-wsands.zip "White Sands" s3m by Mental Floss (andewm). really good 
ambient/trance song with jungle influences 

k-bugs.zip "Bugs In My Head" s3m by Necros. Nine Inch Nails type 
industrial noise track. pretty damn amazing, this pretty much proves that 
trent reznor sucks, because if necros can do this in a tracker he could 
blow the sh*t out of mr reznor in a studio :)

on ftp.wit.com /klf/songs/95/ 
and ftp.luth.se /pub/misc2/kosmic/songs/95

i'll post to the klf-list tomorrow

- Dan


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 14:05 EET
From: "Chris Campbell" <campbell@fox.nstn.ca>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:683] Re: Epidemic ...

On Wed, 11 Jan 95 21:55 EET, 
Schitzo  <g4psycho@cdf.toronto.edu> wrote:

>        i'm totally surprised that NO ONE has RAVED about this music disk
>release ... or even mentioned it for that matter!!!  JEEZ this thing is 
>the most QUALITY release i've ever heard (not that i'm willingly putting 
>down EGG2 ... but this thing KICKS-ASS!!!).

>        don't ask me what ftpsite i got this from cuz i didn't ... i got 
>it off a local bbs board and i just happened to take the chance to DL it 
>cuz it mentioned Future Crew and KLF members (or should i say KFMF).
>(btw the members are Basehead and Necros ... FC's are purple motion and 
>skaven ... but you all know that :)

Well that was very interesting, can anyone tell me where I can FTP this?

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    \ JPEG Picture: ftp://ftp.nstn.ca/in.coming/campbell.jpg   /
    / First Tune (S3M) ftp://ftp.nstn.ca/in.coming/heavymf.zip \ 
    ------------------------------------------------------------
   |           Chris Campbell - campbell@fox.nstn.ca            |
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 16:02 EET
From: jester (Tobias Reckhard) <jester@rbhp56.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:684] Re: Epidemic ...

> (I guess it somewhere on hornet too.)

It's not on ftp.luth.se .../demos/music/disks

> Does anyone know how to "extract" particular tracks from the EPIDEMIC.00X
> files? 

Yes. I ripped all of them (all S3Ms, but some seem to have been MOD and
converted to S3M for use in Epidemic) using PowerRipper. It's on Hornet,
filename something like p-rip.zip or similar.

Necros left quite a bit uncleaned in his song... one of them.

> I've only got one critiscm (and I think this applies for EGG2 too),
> there's no way to play all the tracks in sequence. Each track repeats
> until you manually click/press to move to the next. It'd be really cool to
> set the player going and then just sit back and enjoy... 

That annoys me (a bit) too. When I got that music-disk, I was SO TIRED
that I layed in bed and didn't feel like getting up at all. Epidemic
was REAL good, but I always had to get up after 15 minutes or so when the
current song had looped 5 times to go on to the next one. That's one of
the reasons why I ripped the songs. Now I can use DMPC and CapaMOD to
play them. :)

l8r
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 17:17 EET
From: Schitzo <g4psycho@cdf.toronto.edu>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:685] Re: Epidemic ...


On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Andrew Leahy wrote:
> Does anyone know how to "extract" particular tracks from the EPIDEMIC.00X
> files? 

i'd like to know this information also ...

> I've only got one critiscm (and I think this applies for EGG2 too),
> there's no way to play all the tracks in sequence. Each track repeats
> until you manually click/press to move to the next. It'd be really cool to
> set the player going and then just sit back and enjoy... 

i second that criticism ... also epidemic didn't have a list of the song
titles so you know what you are selecting when ya hit from 1-9 and q-o.


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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 23:50 EET
From: Josh Rodman <wuti@panix.com>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:687] Re: Epidemic

> 
> 
> On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Andrew Leahy wrote:
> > Does anyone know how to "extract" particular tracks from the EPIDEMIC.00X
> > files? 
> 
> i'd like to know this information also ...

There's no special compression, they're just concatenated files, so any
decent ripper should yank 'em out for you.  Go to /music/programs/rippers,
or somthing like that in the hornet archives and download s3mrip or powerrip
or whatever and it'll pull them all out for you, nice and neat.


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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 05:27 EET
From: ST56G@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject: [KLF-TALK:688] Re: Do We Need Another Tracker ?

>>> >I really think the last thing everyone needs is a new tracker....
>>> 
>>> Hehe, and especially not another incompatible quirky format.  We r
>>> enough of those too.
>>> 
>>> Jensi

i'll tell you what we 'need'.. [or what i would like to see] . . a music-
editing program [OTHER than a damn tracker] that supports the S3M [or other
multichannel formats], & uses a piano-roll style interface. the -only-
program i've come across that was written this way is modedit 3.01.. and i
think the concept for music-writing is unmatched. I never have and probably
never will ever get used to the scrolling number shit & the tracker keyboard..
modedit 3 is decent, but very limiting. .  . it only supports 4 channel mods,
& doesn't go above the 640k zone in terms of memory. i can only hope that
one of these days someone will see the light of MIDI & create a good stable
program w/ piano roll .

timelord


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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 05:32 EET
From: ST56G@Jetson.UH.EDU
Subject: [KLF-TALK:689] Re: KOSMIC TRACKER...


>>formats are more than enough. Now let's work in a nice
>>GUI(something liks FT2).

i've tried fast-tracker two, and there's just no possible way i'd use a mouse
like that .. it's just a lot faster to use keyboard shortcuts [if there even
are any in ft2.] (yes, there are, i remember now) . . . 

timelord


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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 95 07:27 EET
From: Pieter Immelman <pi@itu2.sun.ac.za>
Subject: [KLF-TALK:690] Re: DemoNews

klf-talk@oliver.sun.ac.za wrote:
| 
| -> Somebody mentioned DemoNews  ; is this a list ?
| -> If so how can I subscribe?
| 
| write to listserv@oliver.sun.ac.za with this in the body:
| 
| subscribe demuan-l <your_REAL_name>
| 
| Please dont write your email address or anything else that your real
| name at <your_REAL_name>.

Try demuan-list and not demuan-l for better results.

Greetings,
-- pi
listmaster@oliver


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