Here's what I have on California gun laws, a bulletin from NRA's Gun
Talk BBS (filename is BCA0):

CALIFORNIA
(As of June 1992)

PLEASE NOTE: In addition to state laws, the purchase, sale and (in certain
circumstances) the possession and interstate transportation of firearms is
regulated by the Gun Control Act of 1968, as amended by the Firearms
Owners' Protection Act. Also, cities and localities may have their own
firearms ordinances in addition to federal and state laws. Details may be
obtained by contacting local law enforcement authorities and by consulting
the State Laws and Published OrdinancesFirearms, available from the
U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

QUICK REFERENCE CHART
             Rifles and Shotguns      Handguns
Permit to Purchase       NO           NO*
Registration of Firearms NO           NO*
Registration of
 "Assault Weapons"       YES          YES
Licensing of Owner       NO           NO
Permit to Carry          NO           YES

*Police recordation is made of purchases from dealers.

STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION

None.

POSSESSION

It is unlawful for anyone convicted of a felony, or who is a drug addict,
present or former mental patient, ever committed for mental observation, or
acquitted by reason of insanity to own or possess any firearm. People with
certain misdemeanor convictions involving force or violence may not possess
or own any firearm within 10 years of the conviction. Persons who have
been adjudicated as a juvenile offender or delinquent for any offense which
would be classified as a felony or misdemeanor involving force or violence if
committed by an adult may not own or possess any firearm until age 30. A
minor may not possess a handgun except with written permission or under
the supervision of a parent or guardian.

POSSESSION OF "ASSAULT WEAPONS"

"Assault weapons" are listed in Section 12276 and include certain rifles,
pistols and shotguns. (SEE BACK PANEL FOR LIST). The Attorney
General also has the authority to petition a court for additional firearms to
be added to the list of "assault weapons." After limited notice and a hearing,
such other firearms may be added to the list by the court.

      Any person lawfully possessing an "assault weapon" before June 1,
1989 must register the firearm with the Department of Justice by March 31,
1992, although it is reported that registration applications are being
accepted after that date.  Registration includes identification of the firearm
and the name, address, date of birth, thumprint and other information on
the owner.  A fee of up to $20,00 may be charged for the registration.  Any
firearm subsequently added to the list of "assault weapons" must be
registered within 90 days.

Unless otherwise specified, registered "assault weapons" may only be
possessed:

1. At registrant's residence, place of business, or other property owned by
such registrant, or on property owned by another with permission.

2. At recognized target ranges or shooting clubs.

3. At recognized exhibitions.

4. Traveling to or from the foregoing.

No lawfully possessed "assault weapon" may be sold or transferred on or
after January 1,1990, in California to anyone other than a licensed gun
dealer.*

Failure to register an "assault weapon" possessed before June 1,1989, may,
for a first time infraction, result in a fine between $350.00 and $500.00.
Unlawful manufacture, distribution, transportation, importation, sale, or
otherwise giving or lending an "assault weapon" is a felony punishable by
up to eight years in jail.

PURCHASE

Transfer or sale of all firearms must be processed with a California gun
dealer's license. An application for transfer must be made with the gun
dealer before any firearm may be sold or transferred. This application
contains a description of the buyer or transferee and of the firearm. A copy
is sent by the dealer to the California Department of Justice and the local
police chief or sheriff. If the Department of Justice determines that the
buyer or transferee is not eligible to possess a firearm they shall notify the


dealer immediately. There is a 15-day waiting period before delivery of any
firearm. Dealers must keep a register of all firearm transfers. A person
under restraining order may not acquire any firearm.

The waiting period and dealer application do not apply to transfers to police
officers, other gun dealers, manufacturers, or importers, antique firearms,
and rifles and shotguns which are classified as curios or relics by the federal
government, infrequent gifts or transfers to one's "immediate family," an
infrequent temporary loan not to exceed 30 days to a person who is not
prohibited from possessing a firearm, and a transfer of a rifle or shotgun at
auctions by nonprofit or public benefit corporations.

It is unlawful for any person to transfer any firearm to a person who is
forbidden to possess or own a firearm. A dealer may not transfer a pistol to
a person under 21 or other firearm to a person under 18.

CARRYING

It is unlawful to carry a loaded rifle, shotgun, or handgun in any public
place or on any public street in an incorporated area or an area where firing
a firearm is prohibited. In California, a firearm is considered loaded if
unexpended ammunition capable of being used in the firearm is attached in
any manner to the firearm. The following persons and situations are
exceptions:

1. Persons shooting on target ranges, or while hunting on the premises of a
shooting club.

*Exception is made for previously registered firearms that are inherited, or
firearms brought into the state by people moving in but in either case the
firearms must be registered within 90 days under the machine gun
requirements of California law.

2. A person who reasonably believes that he or his property is in immediate
danger and the weapon must be carried for "preservation."**

3. A person "engaged in the act of making or attempting lawful arrest."

4. A person carrying a firearm while at home or at his place of business,
including temporary residences and campsites.
Carrying a handgun concealed is prohibited without a license. The law
states that "Firearms carried openly in belt holsters are not concealed
within the meaning of this section."

Application for a license to carry a concealed firearm is made to the county
sheriff or the city chief of police.

The officer may issue a license if the applicant establishes that he or she is
of "good moral character," a resident of the county and that "good cause
exists'' for the issuance of the license.

The issuing officer has the power to include, in his discretion, any
"reasonable" restrictions on the license to carry (such as time, place, etc.).

The application must contain a description of the licensee and the gun or
guns to be carried. The applicant must be fingerprinted and a copy of the
prints sent to the Department of Justice.

NOTE: Despite the existence of this licensing procedure, it is reported that
in many California counties, the license is extremely difficult, if not
impossible, to obtain.

CARRYING AND TRANSPORTATION IN VEHICLES

Carrying a handgun concealed within a vehicle is prohibited without a
license. A handgun carried in a glove compartment or under the seat of a
vehicle is considered to be concealed. A handgun placed in the trunk of an
automobile, or locked in a container in the vehicle other than the utility or
glove compartment or while in a locked container carried directly to or from
a vehicle is deemed not to be "concealed." A locked container means a fully
enclosed secure container locked by a key lock or similar locking device.

Exceptions to this prohibition are:

1. Members of clubs organized for practice shooting while on any
established target range or going to and from such range.

2. Licensed hunters and fishermen while engaged in hunting or fishing and
while going to or from such hunting or fishing expeditions.

3. Members of an antique or historical collector's club while at a show, or
while going to and from a display as long as the weapons are locked in a
trunk or are in a locked container.

ANTIQUES AND REPLICAS


Antique firearm means any firearm not designed or redesigned for using
rimfire or centerfire ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898
(including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of
ignition

''Claiming this exception is difficult, since a person accused of a violation
must prove in court the "reasonableness" of his belief .

system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before 1898) using
fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the U.S. and is not
readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

MACHINE GUNS

A machine gun is defined as any firearm which shoots or is designed to
shoot, automatically, more than one shot, without manual reloading, by
single function of the trigger. The term also includes any conversion part,
frame or receiver of a machine gun, or any firearm deemed as such by the
federal government. Upon a showing of good cause, a permit for possession
and/or transportation may be issued by the Department of Justice.

It is unlawful to possess a destructive device, including tracer or incendiary
ammunition or any firearm larger than .60 caliber which fires fixed
ammunition, or any fixed ammunition for such firearm. Excluded are
shotguns and shotgun ammunition.

NOTE: It has been reported that the Department of Justice refuses to grant
such permits.

MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS

No license or permit shall be required to possess, keep, or carry a handgun
openly or concealed in one's home or place of business.

The state legislature also has expressed its intention to occupy the whole
field of the regulation and licensing of firearms, thus precluding cities and
other localities from enacting firearms laws.

It is unlawful to set any spring or "trap" gun.
It is unlawful to change, alter or remove the serial number, maker's name
or other identifying mark from any firearm, unless one has secured the
written permission of the Department of Justice. Possession of a firearm


with altered identifying marks creates a legal presumption that the
possessor committed the offense.

It is unlawful to possess a loaded firearm on the grounds or in the buildings
of any public school, including the State University, without permission of
the school authorities, or courthouse, State Capitol building or grounds, any
legislative office or the office or residence of the Governor, constitutional
officer or member of the Legislature.

A minor may not possess live ammunition except with the written
permission or under the supervision of a parent or guardian, or while going
to or from an organized lawful recreational or competitive shooting activity
or lawful hunting activity.

It is unlawful to possess, transport, or sell ammunition principally for use in
a handgun which is "designed primarily to penetrate metal or armor." It is
unlawful to possess a multi-burst trigger activator or a zipgun.

The following lists those "assault weapons" affected by the June 1, 1989 law
and its 1991 amendments:
"(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series
(2) UZI and Galil
(3) Baretta AR-70
(4) CETME Sporter
(S) Colt AR-15 series
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 11 OC
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match and Sporter
(8) MAS223
(9) HK-91, H-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1
(10) MAC 10 and MAC 11 types
(11) SKS with detachable magazine
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SIG 550 & 551
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48
(14) Sterling MK-6
(15) Steyer AUG
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S
( 17) Armalite AR180
( 18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle
( 19) Calico M-900
(20) J&R ENG M-68
(21 ) Weaver Arms Nighthawk

(b) All of the following specified pistols:
(1 ) UZI
(2) Encom MP-9 and MP-45
(3) MAC 10 and MAC 11 types
(4) INTRATEC TEC-9
(5) Sites Spectre Auto
(6) Sterling MK-7
(7) Calico M-950
(8) Bushmaster Pistol

(c) All of the following specified shotguns:
(1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12
(2) Striker 12
(3) Street Sweeper."

SOURCE: Cal. Penal Code *12020 et. seq.

CAUTION: State firearm laws are subject to frequent change. The above
summary is not to be considered as legal advice or a restatement of law. To
determine the applicability of these laws to specific situations which you
may encounter, you are strongly urged to consult a local attorney.

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And here are the Florida CCW stats:

                 FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE
                          Jim Smith
                     Secretary of State
                    DIVISION OF LICENSING
                    Post Office Box 6687
               Tallahassee, Florida 32314-6687


             CONCEALED WEAPONS/FIREARMS LICENSE
                   STATISTICAL REPORT FOR
                 PERIOD 10/01/87 -  7/31/93

                                                      TOTAL

 Applications received:                              170,532

     New                            125,020
     Renewal                         45,512

 Licenses Issued:                                    164,404

      New                           119,234
      Renewal                        45,170

 Licenses valid:                                      96,608

 Applications Denied:                                    916

      Criminal History:                 538
      Incomplete Application:           378

 License Revoked:                                        319

      Clemency rule change or
      Legislative change:                66

      Illegible prints with No
      Response                           10

      Crime prior to licensure           63

        - Firearm Utilized:   --4

       Crime After Licensure            164

        - Firearm Utilized   --16

       Other                             16

       Reinstated                                        40*

 *Statistics regarding number of licenses reinstated were
 not maintained prior to January, 1990

Hope this helps.

Neil

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